Now that they are making soul fusion requirements unique for some commanders (Galbraith, Oren, Heliot, maybe others I haven't found yet), the soul fusion requirement template for some commanders is incorrect. For example, Galbraith's soul slots require souls of various different races, he doesn't use only Paragon souls like most of the other commanders and his stat boosts are different (20% ATK boost rather than 10%). This might be a huge pain for whoever created the basic commander page template to fix, but it looks like they're probably going to release more commanders with soul slots that don't fit the generic race-determined 3/5/7/10 combinations. They're probably releasing new commanders with less balanced stats to keep power creep down, so they can release commanders with higher stats in one area (ATK, WIS, etc) while still keeping total stats roughly the same as commanders from previous months, so my guess is that this is going to become more common. Whoever coded the template will have to figure out a way to set the soul slots template up in a way that allows for this.
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Yeah, I'm not sure how the template is set up currently, so I don't know if this is only a unique problem for a few very specific commanders or if it's more widespread. I'm not keen myself on the idea of manually checking to verify that every commander has their slots depicted accurately, but if a lot of them are wrong, then I'll have to readjust all the spreadsheet calculations I used to compile the top 10 record lists.
I haven't pulled Oren from the pact, so is it possible for someone who has pulled him (Epic+ or Legendary, doesn't matter since they have the same slots) to tell me what his slot bonuses are for HP, ATK, DEF and WIS? His page says it's 7/10/3/5 but I believe his HP slot is a 5 star slot so I'm assuming the actual boosts may be different than what the template pre-determined.
If anyone has noticed any of the other commanders that have irregular/incorrectly listed stat boosts other than the three I mentioned, please let me know.
I also want to account for soul fusions somehow. I'm not so concerned with actually listing the slots because you enter your own 'base stats' anyway, but I do want to add something that marks the skill cooldown or charge turns. Mostly because i'm thinking about adding something like "average damage per turn". As such i need to record how often skills become available over a certain window of turns. Obviously it would make some assumptions like, 'default' DEF/WIS score, all skills hit the maximum number of targets, all skills are used as soon as they become available, and all opposing targets are of the same affinity. This wouldn't do anything to decrease the usefulness of this number since all commanders would have the calculation done the same way. The number would more be used to compare the actual damage strength of one commander to another rather than being used to give you real damage numbers. Maybe i should call it "attack power" rather than "average damage" so there's no confusion, but in any case those are some changes I'm planning to make moving forward.
I like the idea of having some sort of method of gauging average skill damage to comparatively rank familiars, since the stats of each commander have obviously been adjusted to account for different abilities, damage modifiers and skill charges. Since agility has been removed, variation in skill charges is the closest thing the game has to a "speed" rating now. While it's somewhat irrelevant in terms of openers in PvP since you can carry over charged skills, having a lower cooldown seems like it will be a lot more important in PvE now that they've introduced Gauntlet events.
The lowest normal skill charge rating (before soul fusion) is 2, the highest is 4. After soul fusion this would put the numbers at 1, 2 and 3 turns. If starting from scratch and assuming all skills are used immediately upon being active to begin recharging, then the earliest turn that all commanders will have their skills available simultaneously is on the 12th turn. Over 12 turns, a commander with a skill charge of 1 will use their skill 6 times, a commander with a skill charge of 2 will use their skill 4 times and a commander with a skill charge of 3 will use their skill 3 times.
I suppose the easiest way to calculate average skill damage would be to divide the number of skills used over the course of 12 turns by 12 (6, 4 and 3, respectively), then multiply that number against total skill damage done in one active turn. So the modifier for each respective skill charge number would be 0.5 for 1 turn, 0.333 for 2 turns and 0.25 for 3 turns. If you are calculating numbers pre-soul fusion, you'd use the same number for 2 and 3 turns and 0.208 for 4 turns.
I'd like to determine some method of comparing healing abilities as well. To gauge healing per turn to see how regeneration stacks up against instant heals I suppose the same modifiers listed above could be used. The only trouble is how to compare Max HP Healing against Current HP Healing. You'd need to set up a specific 3 commander party that would be used for all comparisons and set an HP floor that would be used to determine the amount used to calculate Current HP Healing.
It would be interesting to find a way to calculate damage over time from poison as well, since that amount is based on the target's current HP.
I want to work on getting the "Top 10 List" page up to par with the Blood Brothers wiki, so this will be helpful!
If you guys have any ideas for extra categories you want to have comparisons for that aren't on the BBros page, like a "heal on hit" or "buff on hit" category or something, let me know.
I'd like to see a guide on the new usage of Soulstones and Gear.
Think I am starting to understand it. For now, I am not going to fuse even though it could help some. Simply don't have the resources to do it without compromising the commanders and backing things into a corner.
Same. I'm under that assumption that once you fuse a soul to a slot, that soul and slot are used up for good and you can't soul-swap like we could before the update. Putting off soul fusion has had a definite impact on my PvP ability but I'm waiting until others have researched it a bit more because I don't want to make any permanent decisions with my best commanders that I might regret later.
you have to level them back up, but apparently recent change is they stay their max level, you just have to get all the ASC again to re-absolve them again, if they allow it.
That's correct. I had a 3* Gardin, ASC 4/4 left over from the last event that was sitting at level 1 when they introduced the new update.
Before the update when you got a 3* commander to level 40 with ASC at 4/4 and chose to absolve it for the soul, you kept the 3* commander but their ASC rating was reset to 0/4, their base level was reset to 1 and their max level was reset to 32.
Post update, when you have a 3* commander at level 40 with ASC at 4/4 and you choose to absolve it for the soul, you keep the 3* commander, their ASC rating is reset to 0/4, their base level is reset to 1, but their max level remains at 40/40. You still have to pay to raise the soul back up to max level but all future ascensions with that commander now only require 4 commanders rather than the 5 it took to ascend it the first time. However, that's only when they are at their max star rating (2/2, 3/3, 4/4, 5/5, 6/6, etc). You still lose the original commander when you ascend a 2/3*, 3/4*, 4/5* commander and get the soul.
I imagine that people that had 4* commanders at level 50 or 5* commanders at level 60 wouldn't have wanted to ascend those commanders for the soul before the update because a 4* or 5* soul certainly isn't worth losing a level 50/60 commander for (unless you had an unlimited line of credit on your credit card). The mechanic was probably changed to address the fact that under the previous mechanic, absolving the souls of the best commanders would significantly hurt your squad in the short term more than it could enhance it in the long term.